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Hope Is by Killswitch Engage Hope Is Tuning- CGCFAD ~ -Let note ring \ -Slide up / -Slide down I know there are octaves in the chorus. Im working on that now. Intro (let notes ring) |--------------------| |--------------------| |--------------------| |-10~---7~---3~---1~-| |-8~----7~---3~---1~-| |-8~----7~---3~---1~-| Intro 2 |---------------------------------------------------------------| |---------------------------------------------------------------| |---------------------------------------------------------------| |---------7-----5/7-------------8-----7-------------------------| |-0-------5-----3/5-------------6-----5-----6-----5-------------| |-0-0-0-0---0-0-----0-0-0-0-0-0---0-0---0-0-6-0-0-5-0-0-3-5-3-0-| PM . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Intro 2 (Gtr.2) (play after playing above riff twice) |---------------------------------------------------------------| |---------------------------------------------------------------| |---------7-----5/7-------------8-----7-------------------------| |---------x-----x-x-------------x-----x-------------------------| |-0-------5-----3/5-------------6-----5-----6-----5-------------| |-0-0-0-0---0-0-----0-0-0-0-0-0---0-0---0-0-6-0-0-5-0-0-3-5-3-0-| PM . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Verse |--------------------------------------------------------------| |--------------------------------------------------------------| |--------------------------------------------------------------| |--------------------------3--5--------------------------3-----| |-1-3-2-3-1-3-0-3-1-3-2-3--1--3-1-3-2-3-1-3-0-3-1-3-2-3--1---1-| |-1-3-2-3-1-3-0-3-1-3-2-3-0--0--1-3-2-3-1-3-0-3-1-3-2-3-0--0-1-| PM. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Pre-Chorus |--------------------------------------------------------| |--------------------------------------------------------| |--------------------------------------------------------| |-5-----------7-----------7/8-7/8-7\---------------------| |-3-----------5-----5-----5/6-5/6-5\---------------------| |---0-0-3-0-0---0-0-5-0-0------------0-0-0--0-0-0--0-0-0-| PM . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Chorus (Gtr.2) |------------------------------------------------| |------------------------------------------------| |------------------------------------------------| |---------------------------------10-10-10-10-10-| |-0-0-0-0-0-3-3-3-3h5--8-8-8-8-8--8--8--8--8--8--| |-0-0-0-0-0-3-3-3-3h5--8-8-8-8-8--8--8--8--8--8--| Chorus (Gtr.2) (Con't) |--------------------------------------------| |--------------------------------------------| |--------------------------------------------| |-----------------------------------------10-| |-0-0-0-0-0-3-3-3-3h5--8-8-8-8-8--888-8---8--| |-0-0-0-0-0-3-3-3-3h5--8-8-8-8-8--888-8---8--| PM ... Interlude |---------------------------------------------------| |---------------------------------------------------| |-----10-----10-----9-----9-----7-----7-----5-----5-| |--0-0----0-0----0-0---0-0---0-0---0-0---0-0---0-0--| |-0-0----0-0----0-0---0-0---0-0---0-0---0-0---0-0---| |---------------------------------------------------| Interlude 2 |-----------------------------------------------------| |-----------------------------------------------------| |-9-----------9---10-----------10--9-----------9---10-| |-9-----------9---10-----------10--9-----------9---10-| |-7-----------7---8------------8---7-----------7---8--| |---0-0-0-0-0---0----0-0-0-0-0---0---0-0-0-0-0---0----| PM . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Interlude 2 (Con't) |-------------------------------------------------| |-------------------------------------------------| |-----------9---7-----------7---9-----------7---5-| |-----------9---7-----------7---9-----------7---5-| |-----------7---5-----------5---7-----------5---3-| |-0-0-0-0-0---0---0-0-0-0-0---0---0-0-0-0-0---0---| PM. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Interlude 2 Fill |-------------------------------| |-------------------------------| |-------------------------------| |-------------------------------| |-----------7h8p7-----7h8p7-----| |-0-0-0-0-0-------0-0-------0-0-| PM. . . . . . . . . Interlude 2 (Gtr.2) (Not correct strumming patterns, but you get the point) |----------------------------------------------------------| |----------------------------------------------------------| |-7-7777777/9-9/10-10\9-9999999/10-10/-12\10-10101010101010| |-x-xxxxxxx-x-x-x--x--x-xxxxxxx-x--x----x-x--x-x-x-x-x-x-x-| |-5-5555555/7-7/8--8-\7-7777777/8--8-/-10\8--8-8-8-8-8-8-8-| |----------------------------------------------------------| Interlude 2 (Gtr.2) (Con't) |----------------------------------| |----------------------------------| |-10/12-12/14-14\12-12-12-12-12-12-| |-x--x--x--x--x--x--x-x-x-x-x-x-x--| |-8-/10-10/12-12\10-10101010101010-| |----------------------------------| Outro |---------------------------------------------------------------| |---------------------------------------------------------------| |---------------------------------------------------------------| |----------------------------------------------------------3--5-| |-1-3-2-3-1-3-0-3-1-3-2-3-1-3-0-3-1-3-2-3-1-3-0-3-1-3-2-3--1--3-| |-1-3-2-3-1-3-0-3-1-3-2-3-1-3-0-3-1-3-2-3-1-3-0-3-1-3-2-3-0--0--| PM. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |----------------------------------------------------------------| |----------------------------------------------------------------| |----------------------------------------------------------------| |----------------------------------------------------------3-----| |-1-3-2-3-1-3-0-3-1-3-2-3-1-3-0-3-1-3-2-3-1-3-0-3-1-3-2-3--1---1-| |-1-3-2-3-1-3-0-3-1-3-2-3-1-3-0-3-1-3-2-3-1-3-0-3-1-3-2-3-0--0-1-| PM. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . This is our moment Will you stand with me? Hope is not lost Hope is not lost Let the strength of your words Be the spark that ignites the flame Proclaim your freedom Give voice to your liberation This is my confession Mark these words, we will rise Weep no more We will prevail Grieve no more We will prevail Revoke the needless way of affliction Revoke and abandon We are the authors, finishers of our faith We are the solution This is my confession Mark these words, we will rise Weep no more We will prevail Grieve no more We will prevail Hope is... Hope is not lost Weep no more We will prevail Grieve no more We will prevail This is our moment Will you stand with me? Hope is not lost Hope is not lost ------------------ version 2 Tuning: C G C F A D Tuning: Drop C - CGCFAD This song has two guitar parts labeled Lead and Rhythm. Joined bars indicate synchronous playing of each part. On the recording, Lead can be heard on the left audio channel and Rhythm on the right audio channel. If playing solo, play the Lead part. Key: ---- PM. - Palm Mute PH. - Pinch harmonic H. - Natural harmonic / - Slide up (towards bridge) \ - Slide down (towards head) >> - Pick scrape down (towards head) ~ - Vibrato h - Hammer on p - Pull off o| - Repeat (once, unless otherwise stated underneath) |o - Repeat from (here when repeating, otherwise the start of the section) * - Note (described underneath) 1. Intro Lead & Rhythm D|----------------|----------------------------| A|----------------|----------------------------| F|--7-------------|----------------------------| C|--7------7------|--3------1---/////12\\\\\0--| G|--5------7------|--3------1---/////12\\\\\0--| C|---------7------|--3------1---/////12\\\\\0--| Lead D|-------------------------------------|-----------------------------------| A|-------------------------------------|-----------------------------------| F|-------------------------------------|-----------------------------------| C|----------7-----5/7------------------|--8-----7--------------------------| G|--0-------5-----3/5------------------|--6-----5-----6-----5--------------| C|--0-0-0-0---0-0-----0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0--|----0-0---0-0-6-0-0-5-0-0-3-5-3-0--| |PM . . . . . . . . . . . . . | . . . . . . . . . . . . | | | | | Rhythm | | D|-------------------------------------|-----------------------------------| A|-------------------------------------|-----------------------------------| F|-------------------------------------|-----------------------------------| C|-------------------------------------|-----------------------------------| G|--0-0--------------------------------|--0---------------------0//12\\\0--| C|--0-0--------------------------------|--0---------------------0//12\\\0--| 2. A Section Lead & Rhythm D|-------------------------------------|-----------------------------------| A|-------------------------------------|-----------------------------------| F|-------------------------------------|-----------------------------------| C|----------7-----5/7------------------|--8-----7--------------------------| G|--0-------5-----3/5------------------|--6-----5-----6-----5--------------| C|--0-0-0-0---0-0-----0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0--|----0-0---0-0-6-0-0-5-0-0-3-5-3-0--| PM . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Lead & Rhythm D|-------------------------------------|-----------------------------------| A|-------------------------------------|-----------------------------------| F|-------------------------------------|-----------------------------------| C|----------7-----5/7------------------|--8-----7--------------------------| G|--0-------5-----3/5------------------|--6-----5-----6-----5--------------| C|--0-0-0-0---0-0-----0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0--|----0-0---0-0-6-0-0-5-0-0-12\\\\0--| PM . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3. B Section Lead & Rhythm D|---------------------|--------------------|-----------| A|---------------------|--------------------|-----------| F|o--------------------|--------------------|-----------| C|o--------------------|-----------------3--|-----5-----| G|---0--3--2--4--1--3--|--0--3--2--4-----1--|-----3-----| C|---0--3--2--4--1--3--|--0--3--2--4--0-----|--0--------| PM. . . . . . . . . . . . Lead & Rhythm * D|---------------------|--------------------|-----------| A|---------------------|--------------------|-----------| F|---------------------|--------------------|----------o| C|---------------------|-----------------3--|----------o| G|---0--3--2--4--1--3--|--0--3--2--4-----1--|-----1-----| C|---0--3--2--4--1--3--|--0--3--2--4--0-----|--0--1-----| PM. . . . . . . . . . . . *At this point, second time round, Lead plays down slide from 12 fret. [Play 2. A Section] 4. A Section variant Lead D|----------------------------------------|--------------------------------------| A|----------------------------------------|--------------------------------------| F|o----------10-----9/10------------------|--12-----10-----8-----7--------------o| C|o-----------x-----x--X------------------|---x------x-----x-----x--------------o| G|---0--------8-----7//8------------------|--10------8-----6-----5---------------| C|---0-0-0-0----0-0------0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0--|-----0-0----0-0---0-0---0-0-3-5-3-0---| |PM . . . . . . . . . . . . . | . . . . . . . . . . . . | | | | | Rhythm | | D|----------------------------------------|--------------------------------------| A|----------------------------------------|--------------------------------------| F|o---------------------------------------|-------------------------------------o| C|o-----------7-----5//7------------------|---8------7--------------------------o| G|---0--------5-----3//5------------------|---6------5-----6-----5---------------| C|---0-0-0-0----0-0------0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0--|-----0-0----0-0-6-0-0-5-0-0-3-5-3-0---| PM . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5. Pre-chorus Lead & Rhythm D|---------------------------|-----------------------------------------| A|---------------------------|-----------------------------------------| F|---------------------------|-----------------------------------------| C|--3-----------5------------|--7/8--7/8--7----------------------------| G|--1-----3-----3-----5------|--5/6--5/6--5--0-0-0--0-0-0--0-0-0--0-0--| C|----0-0-3-0-0---0-0-5-0-0--|---------------0-0-0--0-0-0--0-0-0--0-0--| PM . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Lead & Rhythm D|---------------------------|-----------------------------------------| A|---------------------------|-----------------------------------------| F|---------------------------|-----------------------------------------| C|--3-----------5------------|--7/8--7/8--7----------------------------| G|--1-----3-----3-----5------|--5/6--5/6--5--0-0-0--0-0-0--0-0-<<<<<<--| C|----0-0-3-0-0---0-0-5-0-0--|---------------0-0-0--0-0-0--0-0-<<<<<<--| PM . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6. Chorus Lead D|----------------------------------|----------------------------------------| A|----------------------------------|----------------------------------------| F|o--5/7-7-7----7-7-----7/10-10--9--|--15-----15-15-15-----15-15-15-14-10----| C|o--x-x-x-x----x-x-----x--x--x--x--|---x------x--x--x------x--x--x--x--x----| G|---3/5-5-5----5-5-----5//8--8--7--|--13-----13-13-13-----13-13-13-12--8----| C|----------------------------------|----------------------------------------| | | | | Rhythm | | D|----------------------------------|----------------------------------------| A|----------------------------------|----------------------------------------| F|----------------------------------|--10-----10-10-10------10-10----10-10---| C|---5/7-7-7----7-7----10--------9--|--10-----10-10-10------10-10----10-10---| G|---3/5-5-5----5-5-----8--------7--|---8------8--8--8-------8--8-----8--8---| C|----------------------------------|---8------8--8--8-------8--8-----8--8---| Lead D|----------------------------------|----------------------------------------| A|----------------------------------|----------------------------------------| F|---5/7-7-7----7-7-----7/10-10--9--|--10-----10-10-10-----10-10-10----10---o| C|---x-x-x-x----x-x-----x--x--x--x--|---x------x--x--x------x--x--x-----x---o| G|---3/5-5-5----5-5-----5//8--8--7--|---8------8--8--8------8--8--8-----8----| C|----------------------------------|----------------------------------------| | | | | Rhythm | | D|----------------------------------|----------------------------------------| A|----------------------------------|----------------------------------------| F|---------------------12/14-14-12--|--10-----10-10-10------10-10-10----10--o| C|---5/7-7-7----7-7-----x--x--x--x--|--10-----10-10-10------10-10-10----10--o| G|---3/5-5-5----5-5----10/12-12-10--|---8------8--8--8-------8--8--8-----8---| C|----------------------------------|---8------8--8--8-------8--8--8-----8---| 7. A Section (with pinch harmonics) Lead & Rhythm D|-------------------------------------|-----------------------------------| A|-------------------------------------|-----------------------------------| F|-------------------------------------|-----------------------------------| C|----------7-----5/7------------------|--8-----7--------------------------| G|--0-------5-----3/5------------------|--6-----5-----6-----5--------------| C|--0-0-0-0---0-0-----0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0--|----0-0---0-0-6-0-0-5-0-0-3-5-3-0--| PM . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Lead D|-------------------------------------|-----------------------------------| A|-------------------------------------|-----------------------------------| F|-------------------------------------|-----------------------------------| C|----------7-----5/7------------------|--8-----7--------------------------| G|--0-------5-----3/5------------------|--6-----5-----6-----5------8~~~~~--| C|--0-0-0-0---0-0-----0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0--|----0-0---0-0-6-0-0-5-0-0----------| |PM . . . . . . . . . . . . . | . . . . . . . .PH. | | | | | | | | Rhythm | | D|-------------------------------------|-----------------------------------| A|-------------------------------------|-----------------------------------| F|-------------------------------------|-----------------------------------| C|----------7-----5/7------------------|--8-----7--------------------------| G|--0-------5-----3/5------------------|--6-----5-----6-----5------3~~~~~--| C|--0-0-0-0---0-0-----0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0--|----0-0---0-0-6-0-0-5-0-0----------| PM . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .PH. [Play 4. A Section variant] [Play 5. Pre-verse] [Play 6. Chorus] 8. Interlude Lead D|--------------------------------------|-------------------------------------| A|--------------------------------------|-------------------------------------| F|--------------------------------------|-------------------------------------| C|---------0------------0---------------|--------0------------0---------------| G|-----0-------0---0---------0---0---0--|----0-------0---0---------0---0---0--| C|---0---0-------0---0---------0---0----|--0---0-------0---0---------0---0----| | | | | Rhythm | | D|--13-[x16]----------------------------|--13-[x16]---------------------------| A|--10-[x16]----------------------------|--10-[x16]---------------------------| F|--------------------------------------|-------------------------------------| C|--------------------------------------|-------------------------------------| G|---0----------------------------------|-------------------------------------| C|---0----------------------------------|-------------------------------------| Lead D|--------------------------------------|-------------------------------------| A|--------------------------------------|-------------------------------------| F|o--------10-----------10--------------|--------9------------9---------------| C|o----7-------7---7---------7---7---7--|----5-------5---5---------5---5---5--| G|---0---0-------0---0---------0---0----|--0---0-------0---0---------0---0----| C|--------------------------------------|-------------------------------------| | | | | Rhythm | | D|--13-[x16]----------------------------|--12-[x16]---------------------------| A|--10-[x16]----------------------------|---8-[x16]---------------------------| F|o-10----------------------------------|---9---------------------------------| C|o--7----------------------------------|---7---------------------------------| G|---0----------------------------------|---0---------------------------------| C|---0----------------------------------|---0---------------------------------| Lead D|--------------------------------------|--------------------------------------| A|--------------------------------------|--------------------------------------| F|---------7------------7---------------|--------5------------5---------------o| C|-----3-------3---3---------3---3---3--|----2-------2---2---------2---2---2--o| G|---0---0-------0---0---------0---0----|--0---0-------0---0---------0---0-----| C|--------------------------------------|--------------------------------------| | | | | Rhythm | | D|--10-[x16]----------------------------|--8-[x16]-----------------------------| A|---6-[x16]----------------------------|--5-[x16]-----------------------------| F|---7----------------------------------|--5----------------------------------o| C|---7----------------------------------|--7-------------->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>--o| G|---0----------------------------------|--0-------------->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>---| C|---0----------------------------------|--0-----------------------------------| ^Second time only Lead D|--------------------------------------|-------------------------------------| A|--------------------------------------|-------------------------------------| F|o--------10-----------10--------------|---------9------------9--------------| C|o----7-------7---7---------7---7---7--|----5-------5---5---------5---5---5--| G|---0---0-------0---0---------0---0----|--0---0-------0---0---------0---0----| C|--------------------------------------|-------------------------------------| | | | | Rhythm | | D|--------------------------------------|-------------------------------------| A|--------------------------------------|-------------------------------------| F|o-10-----------9--10------------10----|--9-----------7---9-------------9----| C|o--7-----------7---7-------------7----|--5-----------5---5-------------5----| G|-----0-0-0-0-0---0---0-0-0-0-0-----0--|----0-0-0-0-0---0---0-0-0-0-0-----0--| C|-----0-0-0-0-0---0---0-0-0-0-0-----0--|----0-0-0-0-0---0---0-0-0-0-0-----0--| PM. . . . . . . . . . . . PM. . . . . . . . . . . . Lead D|--------------------------------------|------------------------------------------| A|--------------------------------------|------------------------------------------| F|----------7------------7--------------|---------5--------------5----------------o| C|-----3-------3---3---------3---3---3--|----2-------2---2-----------2---2---2----o| G|---0---0-------0---0---------0---0----|--0---0-------0---0-----------0---0-------| C|--------------------------------------|------------------------------------------| | | | | | | D|--------------------------------------|------------------------------------------| A|--------------------------------------|------------------------------------------| F|---7-----------5---7-------------7----|--5-----------4--------------------------o| C|---3-----------3---5-------------5----|--2-----------2-2h3p2p0-----2h3p2p0------o| G|-----0-0-0-0-0---0---0-0-0-0-0-----0--|----0-0-0-0-0-----------3-2----------3-2--| C|-----0-0-0-0-0---0---0-0-0-0-0-----0--|----0-0-0-0-0-----------------------------| PM. . . . . . . . . . . . PM. . . . . . . * . . *Second time round play pinch harmonic on 3rd fret of the 3rd string with wide vibrato Lead D|--------------------------------------|-------------------------------------| A|--------------------------------------|-------------------------------------| F|o--7-7-7-7-7-7-7-7-7-7-7-7-7-7/10-10--|--9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9/12-12--| C|o--x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x--x--x--|--x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x--x--x--| G|---5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5//8--8--|--7-7-7-7-7-7-7-7-7-7-7-7-7-7/10-10--| C|--------------------------------------|-------------------------------------| | | | | Rhythm | | D|--------------------------------------|-------------------------------------| A|--------------------------------------|-------------------------------------| F|o-10-----------9--10-----------10-----|--9-----------7---9------------9-----| C|o--7-----------7---7------------7-----|--5-----------5---5------------5-----| G|-----0-0-0-0-0---0---0-0-0-0-0-----0--|----0-0-0-0-0---0---0-0-0-0-0-----0--| C|-----0-0-0-0-0---0---0-0-0-0-0-----0--|----0-0-0-0-0---0---0-0-0-0-0-----0--| PM. . . . . . . . . . . . PM. . . . . . . . . . . . Lead D|--------------------------------------|--------------------------------------| A|--------------------------------------|--------------------------------------| F|--10-[x13]------------------10/14-14--|--12-12-12-12-12-12-12-12-------------| C|---x-------------------------x--x--x--|---x--x--x--x--x--x--x--x-------------| G|---8-[x13]-------------------8/12-12--|--10-10-10-10-10-10-10-10->>>>>>>>>>--| C|--------------------------------------|-------------------------->>>>>>>>>>--| | | | | | | D|--------------------------------------|--------------------------------------| A|--------------------------------------|--------------------------------------| F|---7-----------5---7------------7-----|---5-----------------4--5-------------| C|---3-----------3---5------------5-----|---2-----------------2--2-------------| G|-----0-0-0-0-0---0---0-0-0-0-0-----0--|------0--0--0--0--0-------0-0->>>>>>--| C|-----0-0-0-0-0---0---0-0-0-0-0-----0--|------0--0--0--0--0-------0-0->>>>>>--| PM. . . . . . . . . . . . PM . . . . . . . [Play 7. Chorus] 9. Outro Lead & Rhythm D|---------------------|--------------------|-----------| A|---------------------|--------------------|-----------| F|---------------------|--------------------|-----------| C|---------------------|-----------------3--|-----5-----| G|--0------------------|-(0)-------------1--|-----3-----| C|--0------------------|-(0)----------0-----|--0--------| PM. . Lead & Rhythm D|---------------------|--------------------|-----------| A|---------------------|--------------------|-----------| F|---------------------|--------------------|-----------| C|---------------------|-----------------3--|-----------| G|--0------------------|->>>>>>>>>>>-----1--|-----1-----| C|--0------------------|->>>>>>>>>>>--0-----|--0--1-----| PM. . Lead & Rhythm D|---------------------|--------------------|--------------------| A|---------------------|--------------------|--------------------| F|o--------------------|--------------------|--------------------| C|o--------------------|--------------------|--------------------| G|---0--3--2--4--1--3--|--0--3--2--4--1--3--|--0--3--2--4--1--3--| C|---0--3--2--4--1--3--|--0--3--2--4--1--3--|--0--3--2--4--1--3--| PM. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Lead & Rhythm D|---------------------|--------------------|-----------| A|---------------------|--------------------|-----------| F|---------------------|--------------------|----------o| C|---------------------|-----------------3--|----------o| G|---0--3--2--4--1--3--|--0--3--2--4-----1--|-----1-----| C|---0--3--2--4--1--3--|--0--3--2--4--0-----|--0--1-----| PM. . . . . . . . . . . . Full Sequence ============= 1. Intro 2. A Section 3. B Section 3. A Section 4. A Section variant 5. Pre-chorus 6. Chorus 7. A Section (with pinch harmonics) 4. A Section variant 5. Pre-verse 6. Chorus 8. Interlude 7. Chorus 9. Outro This is our moment Will you stand with me? Hope is not lost Hope is not lost Let the strength of your words Be the spark that ignites the flame Proclaim your freedom Give voice to your liberation This is my confession Mark these words, we will rise Weep no more We will prevail Grieve no more We will prevail Revoke the needless way of affliction Revoke and abandon We are the authors, finishers of our faith We are the solution This is my confession Mark these words, we will rise Weep no more We will prevail Grieve no more We will prevail Hope is... Hope is not lost Weep no more We will prevail Grieve no more We will prevail This is our moment Will you stand with me? Hope is not lost Hope is not lost -------------------